![]() ![]() INSKEEP: So we spent the last few months asking writers and thinkers to help us understand what this moment in history is that we're all going through. ![]() MEACHAM: Well, our mutual friend Andrew Jackson was a chess player. And all the pieces are flying, and we have no idea where any of them are going to land. INSKEEP: I keep thinking of this moment almost like there's a game of chess, and there's a chess board, and someone has taken the chess board and flipped it in the air. If you care about the underlying elements of our national story, the national order, then a moment in which all of those fundamental assumptions are being questioned is a time of intrinsic interest. And I'm not being overly facile about it. ![]() ![]() JON MEACHAM: It's as though every day is Christmas. What's it been like to be a historian living through this moment in history? His books range from an exploration of religion to the life of Thomas Jefferson to a Pulitzer Prize-winning biography of Andrew Jackson. He's a wide-ranging thinker and historian, former editor of Newsweek. INSKEEP: Jon Meacham will help us on this Independence Day. It's been a long-running conversation, and this morning, we pull the threads together. We've asked writers and thinkers how we got here, where we are, where we might be heading. At this unsettled and for many unsettling moment in history, we've been asking for a road map. And I'm Steve Inskeep with the history of our time. ![]()
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